I'm on a walk (or often a stumble, fall and get back up) using Amazing Surf 2 and all available formulas in MB3D. There are over 400.... I'll probably never finish. That said this is teaching me a lot as instead of just giving up I keep poking (swearing, laughing, pounding my fists) until I find something. I've not gotten a huge distance (when you think not only of the fact that there are over 400 existing formulas and that Luca - :icondark-beam: is creating more). But I'm having fun and learning a lot and so here is what I've found so far!